There’s a common narrative that exists about the economy and the planet. If we try to pursue the former, it will hurt the latter — and vice versa. But Jeff Dukes, professor and director of the Purdue Climate Change Research Center (PCCRC) tells us that this is a false choice.

“The potential in many cases for job gains from switching to renewables is much greater than the potential for job losses by switching away from fossil fuels. There’s a lot of jobs to be had out there in the renewable industry as it expands.”

Listen in as Dukes talks about renewable energy, current research, and the collective intellectual power of the PCCRC.